Discussion in   Suggestions   started     11 years ago   January 26, 2014, 12:39:57 PM   by   Wesley

Minor issues with breeding as it is

Wesley
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Topic :   Minor issues with breeding as it is
11 years ago  January 26, 2014, 12:39:57 PM

Breeding the way it is now seems a little broken imho. While I respect the reasoning to have a parent gain a generation, the issue that arises from that is this....


These numbers are totally made up for demonstration purposes only.


Gen 1 Lvl 30 Male - 700pts
Gen 1 Lvl 30 Female - 700pts


They mate and you get 2x Gen 2 Lvl 30 random sex. This part works great.


Now the issue comes from the parents incrementing in generation as well as the babies. You now have...



Gen 2 Lvl 30 Male - 700pts
Gen 2 Lvl 30 Female - 700pts
Gen 2 Lvl 30 baby - 1400pts
Gen 2 Lvl 30 baby - 1400pts


Now lets mate the original parents again shall we. We end up with....




Gen 3 Lvl 30 Male - 700pts
Gen 3 Lvl 30 Female - 700pts
Gen 3 Lvl 30 baby - 1400pts
Gen 3 Lvl 30 baby - 1400pts


And again for fun...




Gen 4 Lvl 30 Male - 700pts
Gen 4 Lvl 30 Female - 700pts
Gen 4 Lvl 30 baby - 1400pts
Gen 4 Lvl 30 baby - 1400pts


As you can see by this made up example, nothing is improving here over the generations. The only way to make any improvements down the line is to throw the parents in the garbage, and hopefully you ended up with a set of male and female babies. Lets assume you did, every time.



Gen 1 Lvl 30 Male - 700pts
Gen 1 Lvl 30 Female - 700pts


When mating above we get the following.


Gen 2 Lvl 30 Male - 700pts
Gen 2 Lvl 30 Female - 700pts
Gen 2 Lvl 30 baby - 1400pts
Gen 2 Lvl 30 baby - 1400pts


This time we throw the parents in the recycle bin at the bank as they are now rendered useless and we mate the babies (isnt incest illegal?)


Gen 3 Lvl 30 Male - 1400pts
Gen 3 Lvl 30 Female - 1400pts
Gen 3 Lvl 30 baby - 2100pts
Gen 3 Lvl 30 baby - 2100pts


Again we now throw out the Gen 3 parents and mate the Gen 3 babies


Gen 4 Lvl 30 Male - 2100pts
Gen 4 Lvl 30 Female - 2100pts
Gen 4 Lvl 30 baby - 2800pts
Gen 4 Lvl 30 baby - 2800pts


As you can see, the numbers are increasing as they should. However we are forced into tossing the now useless parents.


My suggestion on how it should work. The parents should NOT gain a generation upon breeding. But instead should have another flag set. Maybe called Breeding count. Once this flag reaches 4 or 5 they automatically become sterile. If there is still a concern about "puppy mills" with this in place, make the flag set to 2-3. Or even 1-2. I would rather have a Gen 1 that can only breed once and stays a Gen 1 than to have it pretend to be a Gen 2 with crappy stats.

Kyn
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#1 Re :   Minor issues with breeding as it is
11 years ago  January 26, 2014, 01:49:49 PM

You have pretty much described in a nutshell how we intended for the breeding system to work. It doesn't render your parents useless as pets. Its simple progression. You breed because you want stronger pets.


having the parents of the babies you breed get stronger as well would double the amount of "uber" pets we have on the shard. We don't want that. It tends to create a sink hole in the pet economy. :(

Wesley
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#2 Re :   Minor issues with breeding as it is
11 years ago  January 26, 2014, 02:00:35 PM

I dont think the parents should get stronger. I think they should stay the same. Same gen, same pts.


By having them increase in gen, you end up with really crappy Gen 5 pets. Which should not be.


I would be pissed if someone breeded their crappy Gen 4 w/ 700pts with my kickass Gen 4 w/ 2800pts.


Gen 1s should stay Gen 1s. Gen 3s should stay Gen 3s.


Just limit the amount of times they can breed. Thereby preventing "puppy mills".

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#3 Re :   Minor issues with breeding as it is
11 years ago  January 26, 2014, 02:31:16 PM

easier said than done. We did what we could to limit it in the way the system was written ;)

Wesley
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#4 Re :   Minor issues with breeding as it is
11 years ago  January 26, 2014, 02:33:08 PM

Fair enough. And I do appreciate the lack of "puppy mills".